Wife's Reception Of Communion

A reader writes:

I was baptized in a Protestant church, my wife is a cradle Catholic.  We were married in a Protestant church in 1990s.

I have a previous marriage which ended in divorce.  My ex-spouse was never baptized.

Now my wife and I are trying to set things straight:

Excellent! Good for you!

Currently, my wife and I are living as "brother and sister."

Even better!

I am filing the paperwork  for the Petrine Privilege so that we can convalidate our marriage.

Okay, though annulment may be the better way to address your situation. Your local tribunal can guide you in this matter, though.

I will start RCIA classes in August so that I can enter the Catholic church.

Wonderful!

 

Recently my wife went to confession, explained the situation to the priest, and was forgiven her sins, and was told she could receive communion (provided we were living as brother and sister: no sexual relations at all).

Today, before mass, my wife went to confession, with a different priest (who did not speak English fluently), confessed that she was guilty of temptation (not unheard of for a couple of 8 years who is temporarily living chastely), then briefly explained our situation to the priest.  This priest’s reaction was one of shock, and he told my wife:

A.  She could not receive communion because:

B.  she was a "bad example" to the rest of the church members, but that

C. if she insisted on receiving communion she should do so at another church.

D. He also asked her if she was "planning to get married".

My question:  Is my wife allowed to receive communion with our current situation?  (From all my reading on the forums, it is my conclusion that she is allowed to do so.  Please verify this.  Or are we wrong?)

The basic issue that would prevent one from receiving Communion in a situation like this is typically that the parties are having conjugal relations even though they are not validly married to each other (yet). If you take away that consideration (i.e., if the couple lives continently until such time as they may lawfully engage in conjugal relations with each other) then there is no intrinsic reason why a Catholic party cannot go to Communion.

It sounds as if what the second priest that your wife spoke to was trying to argue that there is an extrinsic reason why your wife should not receive Communion–i.e., that even though your wife is not living contrary to the teachings of the faith that she should refrain from receiving Communion anyway, lest others think she is living contrary to the faith and imitate her supposed example.

The argument, then, is that your wife has a duty of charity not to scandalize others–in the proper sense (i.e., leading them into sin).

We certainly do have a duty not to lead others into sin by our example, even when we ourselves are living in conformity with the faith. St. Paul talks about that (Rom. 14; cf. 1 Cor. 8).

However, in discerning the degree to which this duty is relevant to a particular situation we must ask what the chances are that somebody will actually be led into sin by our example.

It seems to me that the odds would be greater of somebody being scandalized (in the proper sense) by your wife receiving Communion if y’all were attending a tiny, rural parish a hundred years ago and where everybody knew each other. Today, though, the odds are that the great majority of people in the parish won’t even be aware of your wife’s marital situation, and those who are aware may also be aware of the fact that y’all are living continently (depending on how open y’all are about this fact). Given that, the odds of anybody actually being led into grave sin by your wife’s example seem to me to be low.

Against the potential harm that could come from the situation must also be weighed the potential benefit to be derived from it. The Church teaches that reception of the Eucharist binds us closer to Christ. This is a great good in itself. Further, reception of the Eucharist gives us additional grace for resisting sin. And, finally, her reconciliation with the Church may be greatly assisted by receiving Communion.

It thus seems to me that there are "grave" benefits (if I may so use the word "grave") to be gained by her going to Communion but the chances of others suffering grave harm through her doing so are low.

If you want to remove the chance of harm coming to others, you could do as the second priest said and go to a parish where nobody knows her. That’s a judgment call that you can make based on your situation (e.g., how easy it would be to do that). But it seems to me that your wife should be able to receive Communion in your own parish without it posing a major risk to others.

Hope this helps, and God bless!

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Wife’s Reception Of Communion

A reader writes:

I was baptized in a Protestant church, my wife is a cradle Catholic.  We were married in a Protestant church in 1990s.

I have a previous marriage which ended in divorce.  My ex-spouse was never baptized.
Now my wife and I are trying to set things straight:

Excellent! Good for you!

Currently, my wife and I are living as "brother and sister."

Even better!

I am filing the paperwork  for the Petrine Privilege so that we can convalidate our marriage.

Okay, though annulment may be the better way to address your situation. Your local tribunal can guide you in this matter, though.

I will start RCIA classes in August so that I can enter the Catholic church.

Wonderful!

 

Recently my wife went to confession, explained the situation to the priest, and was forgiven her sins, and was told she could receive communion (provided we were living as brother and sister: no sexual relations at all).

Today, before mass, my wife went to confession, with a different priest (who did not speak English fluently), confessed that she was guilty of temptation (not unheard of for a couple of 8 years who is temporarily living chastely), then briefly explained our situation to the priest.  This priest’s reaction was one of shock, and he told my wife:

A.  She could not receive communion because:
B.  she was a "bad example" to the rest of the church members, but that
C. if she insisted on receiving communion she should do so at another church.
D. He also asked her if she was "planning to get married".

My question:  Is my wife allowed to receive communion with our current situation?  (From all my reading on the forums, it is my conclusion that she is allowed to do so.  Please verify this.  Or are we wrong?)

The basic issue that would prevent one from receiving Communion in a situation like this is typically that the parties are having conjugal relations even though they are not validly married to each other (yet). If you take away that consideration (i.e., if the couple lives continently until such time as they may lawfully engage in conjugal relations with each other) then there is no intrinsic reason why a Catholic party cannot go to Communion.

It sounds as if what the second priest that your wife spoke to was trying to argue that there is an extrinsic reason why your wife should not receive Communion–i.e., that even though your wife is not living contrary to the teachings of the faith that she should refrain from receiving Communion anyway, lest others think she is living contrary to the faith and imitate her supposed example.

The argument, then, is that your wife has a duty of charity not to scandalize others–in the proper sense (i.e., leading them into sin).

We certainly do have a duty not to lead others into sin by our example, even when we ourselves are living in conformity with the faith. St. Paul talks about that (Rom. 14; cf. 1 Cor. 8).

However, in discerning the degree to which this duty is relevant to a particular situation we must ask what the chances are that somebody will actually be led into sin by our example.

It seems to me that the odds would be greater of somebody being scandalized (in the proper sense) by your wife receiving Communion if y’all were attending a tiny, rural parish a hundred years ago and where everybody knew each other. Today, though, the odds are that the great majority of people in the parish won’t even be aware of your wife’s marital situation, and those who are aware may also be aware of the fact that y’all are living continently (depending on how open y’all are about this fact). Given that, the odds of anybody actually being led into grave sin by your wife’s example seem to me to be low.

Against the potential harm that could come from the situation must also be weighed the potential benefit to be derived from it. The Church teaches that reception of the Eucharist binds us closer to Christ. This is a great good in itself. Further, reception of the Eucharist gives us additional grace for resisting sin. And, finally, her reconciliation with the Church may be greatly assisted by receiving Communion.

It thus seems to me that there are "grave" benefits (if I may so use the word "grave") to be gained by her going to Communion but the chances of others suffering grave harm through her doing so are low.

If you want to remove the chance of harm coming to others, you could do as the second priest said and go to a parish where nobody knows her. That’s a judgment call that you can make based on your situation (e.g., how easy it would be to do that). But it seems to me that your wife should be able to receive Communion in your own parish without it posing a major risk to others.

Hope this helps, and God bless!

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Who Wants To Be A Married Man?

Given current demographics, we can predict that coming soon to a Chinese audience will be a Made In China version of the game show Who Wants To Be a Millionaire? But the prize on the Chinese version of the show will not be a million dollars but a woman eligible for marriage:

"China will have more than 23 million men unable to find wives by 2020 because so many more boys are being born than girls, according to a study.

"The widespread practice of aborting female foetuses [i.e., fetuses] is being blamed for creating a generation of bachelors who will pose increasing social problems, it says.

"These men are known as ‘bare branches’ because they will never bear fruit. History suggests that they will give rise to higher crime rates and political instability. Their number might encourage China to become more authoritarian or seek an outlet for their energies through war."

GET THE STORY. (Use BugMeNot.com if you get nabbed by the Evil Registration Requirement.)

Of course, Americans don’t usually discriminate on the basis of the sex of the child. In America, unborn babies have an equal opportunity to be aborted. So, in America, we may one day have a game show titled Who Wants To Live?

And modern man thinks the ancient Greeks and Romans who abandoned unwanted babies to the vagaries of the elements were barbarians.

Cohabiting Sleepovers

A reader writes:

I have a cousin who was baptized and raised Catholic.  A couple years ago, she married her non-Catholic husband in a civil ceremony.  From all that I understand, their marriage is invalid because she did not receive a dispensation to get married outside the Church and she has not formally left the Catholic faith. 

Correct.

Recently they mentioned coming to visit my family and stay with my husband and child at our house.  As lovingly as possible, we invited them to stay with us and tried to impart that they were very welcome here… BUT, having learned that they are in marriage not seen as valid by the Church, we asked that they not sleep in the same room in our house.

A reasonable request.

I’ve not gotten a response from my cousin, but have gotten a one from her husband – he’s not coming because of my comments on the validity of their marriage. 

Understandable from his perspective. As a non-Catholic, he cannot be expected to understand these matters and feels insulted. Unfortunately, while he may not recognize the situation he is objectively in, he is in it, and it is a kindness to him to make him aware of this unpleasant fact.

We feel (and told them) it would be scandalous for us to allow them to sleep together in our home and not an example we would like to set for our son.

Excellent. I don’t know the age of your son (obviously a baby is not going to be scandalized by this the way a sixteen-year old is), but it is good parenting to be thinking in these terms.

 

My (Catholic) husband supports me and feels the same way.  Were we in error in asking that they refrain from sleeping together in our house because of the concerns we have about the validity of their marriage?  We mentioned they could stay in a hotel or with my parents (who support me, but don’t agree with asking them not to sleep together) but felt that would be avoiding an issue that is very important to all our souls and where they may end up for all eternity.

You didn’t do anything wrong. The fact is that your Catholic cousin has put not only herself and her husband  but the rest of the family in a problematic situation by her actions and it sounds as if you have been very thoughtful and charitable in trying to deal with it.

It was very hard to ask them this as repercussions and strains are expected to erupt – maybe even broken relationships.

Understood. These things happen in life, and it sounds as if you have been trying to deal with the matter in a frank and charitable way, and God will reward you for your efforts to honor his law in this way. In particular, he will make it up to you (if not in this life then in the next) for crosses that you have had to bear while following him in this matter.

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Cannon Fires Cultural Shot Across the Bow

Ncannon_1Plato said "Let me write the music for the country, and I care not who writes the laws.".

Musician Nick Cannon has written a song and made a video that is not just open to a pro-life interpretation, but is unmistakeably, powerfully and movingly pro-life. It is called Can I Live?. In the song and the video, his spirit travels back in time to the day his mother went to an abortion mill and almost took his life. He pleads with her to think about what she is doing, and she literally RUNS out of the clinic and into a new life as a mother.

It is a stunning accomplishment, and not just in a spiritual and artistic sense; the video is ranked #2 on BET (Black Entertainment Television). Given the kind of amoral stuff I often see on BET, this is a very good thing.

Catholic Exchange has an article on the song, with lyrics and a link to go and watch the video.

I don’t know much about Mr. Cannon’s music outside of  Can I Live?, but he has clearly set the bar very high now, both for himself and other artists. I’m going to buy the song, and possibly the album, after I check out the rest of the material.

Save The Environment For Unborn Babies!

In our ever-continuing national schizophrenia, our government is now worried that unborn babies are being exposed to pollutants while in their mothers’ wombs:

"Unborn U.S. babies are soaking in a stew of chemicals, including mercury, gasoline byproducts and pesticides, according to a report released on Thursday.

"Although the effects on the babies are not clear, the survey prompted several members of Congress to press for legislation that would strengthen controls on chemicals in the environment.

[…]

"’Today, chemicals are being used to make baby bottles, food packaging and other products that have never been fully evaluated for their health effects on children — and some of these chemicals are turning up in our blood,’ said New Jersey Democrat Sen. Frank Lautenberg, who plans to co-sponsor a bill to require chemical manufacturers to provide data to the EPA on the health affects of their products."

GET THE STORY.

In other news, The Daily Planet was unable to obtain a comment from Senator Frank Lautenberg on the remarkable disconnect between his concern for the environmental safety of unborn children and his 100-percent voting-record rating by the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League (NARAL).

U.N. Has a Hearing Problem

Hearing_1Catholic World News carries a story (in a follow-up to an earlier piece) concerning a troubling new way of doing business at the United Nations. In preparation for the upcoming Millenium Development Circus Summit, a series of "informal " hearings is being held to give non-governmental groups (NGOs) an opportunity to address the General Assembly and perhaps influence the proceedings.

Thing is, though, all those conflicting points of view can be confusing (especially if you have already made up your mind) so in order to streamline things a bit, the organizers of the hearings (a special task force appointed by GA president Jean Ping of Gabon) decided to invite only those NGOs that will tell them what they want to hear: that abortion is a basic human right. The task force chose a number of radical pro-abortion groups to address the GA, but not one pro-life/pro-family group was allowed to speak. There was, therefore, simply no rebuttal at all to the pro-abortion groups repeated calls for universal abortion-on-demand.

Anne Patterson, the acting U.S. Amabassador to the U.N., has now made a formal complaint (thank God) on behalf of the conservative NGOs that were excluded from the hearings. Will it make much difference? I’m afraid that the fact of their exclusion in the first place says all we need to know about the agenda of the U.N..
The U.S. should withhold payment of our dues to the U.N. (we are by far their biggest contributor) until such time as the pro-life and pro-family NGOs are allowed to address the General Assembly, the GA president is replaced, and a new task force appointed for future hearings.

GET THE STORY.

New Dealing With Abortion & Communion?

The working document for the synod of bishops scheduled for this Fall has a section in it dealing with the reception of Communion by those who support abortion. The following story touches upon the matter (though it fails to make clear the nature of the document, which is devoted to the theme of the Eucharist rather than to abortion).

EXCERPTS:

The Catholic Church has produced a new document for bishops across the world to examine that says Catholics who support legalized abortion should refrain from taking communion because they are out of step with church teachings.

The Vatican said pro-abortion Catholics are not taking their faith seriously and those who take communion and support abortion are behaving in a scandalous manner.

"Some receive communion while denying the teachings of the Church or publicly supporting immoral choices in life, such as abortion, without thinking that they are committing an act of grave personal dishonesty and causing scandal," the document says.

"Some Catholics do not understand why it might be a sin to support a political candidate who is openly in favor of abortion or other serious acts against life, justice and peace," the document reads.

The 88 page document is intended for Catholic bishops to examine in October and it contends that, because of abortion and other concerns such as rampant divorce, that Catholics have destroyed the sacrosanct nature of communion.

GET THE STORY.

We’ll have to wait and see what the bishops do based on this working document (it’s a kind of preparatory brief for the bishops to deliberate on prior to and during the synod). Unfortunately, there’s no English translation of the whole document out at the moment (at least the Vatican’s web site didn’t have an English version last night, though it had several in other languages HERE).

Will keep y’all posted.

New Dealing With Abortion & Communion?

The working document for the synod of bishops scheduled for this Fall has a section in it dealing with the reception of Communion by those who support abortion. The following story touches upon the matter (though it fails to make clear the nature of the document, which is devoted to the theme of the Eucharist rather than to abortion).

EXCERPTS:

The Catholic Church has produced a new document for bishops across the world to examine that says Catholics who support legalized abortion should refrain from taking communion because they are out of step with church teachings.

The Vatican said pro-abortion Catholics are not taking their faith seriously and those who take communion and support abortion are behaving in a scandalous manner.

"Some receive communion while denying the teachings of the Church or publicly supporting immoral choices in life, such as abortion, without thinking that they are committing an act of grave personal dishonesty and causing scandal," the document says.

"Some Catholics do not understand why it might be a sin to support a political candidate who is openly in favor of abortion or other serious acts against life, justice and peace," the document reads.

The 88 page document is intended for Catholic bishops to examine in October and it contends that, because of abortion and other concerns such as rampant divorce, that Catholics have destroyed the sacrosanct nature of communion.

GET THE STORY.

We’ll have to wait and see what the bishops do based on this working document (it’s a kind of preparatory brief for the bishops to deliberate on prior to and during the synod). Unfortunately, there’s no English translation of the whole document out at the moment (at least the Vatican’s web site didn’t have an English version last night, though it had several in other languages HERE).

Will keep y’all posted.

Well *This* Is Good News

Alberto Gonzales says he’s not a candidate for the Supreme Court.

EXCERPTS:

President Bush could still select his Attorney General as the next Supreme Court judge, but Alberto Gonzales, who has become the most talked about potential jurist, says he’s not a candidate for the high court.

Swinging through Denver to inspect a Justice Department office there, Gonzales told the Denver Post he’s not seeking an appointment to replace outgoing pro-abortion Justice Sandra Day O’Connor.

"I’ve been asked since 2001 whether or not I’d consider going on the court, and I’ve consistently said, ‘I’m not a candidate for the Supreme Court’ — and that remains true today," Gonzales said.

"I love being attorney general. My job, currently, is to help the president make this decision," he added.

It’s not a lock-down, but it’s a positive straw in the wind.

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