The comments are back… sort of

SDG here with an administrative blog note. Some of y’all noticed that a bunch of the comments in the "Elections, Voting and Morality, Part 4" combox seemed to disappear mysteriously yesterday.

Well, it turns out that they were still there… but you couldn’t get to them, because TypePad changed how the combox handles long lists of posts. There is now a 50-comment limit per page, and to see additional comments you have to click "Next / Previous" links at the bottom of the combox. (But you couldn’t see the "Next / Previous" links before either, because the blog needed template updates to display them.)

You can also just go directly to the url for the last page in the combox. For example, the "Elections, Voting and Morality, Part 4" combox currently ends here. (Don’t be fooled by the late-breaking "Hegelian Mambo" reference — this is the current end of the combox!)

In which Mark Shea and SDG try to clarify

SDG here with two clarifications, one from me and one from Mark Shea.

In a blog post entitled "Steve Greydanus takes Exception to my Choice to Go Third Party," Mark Shea writes:

I don’t believe I’ve ever said that voting for McCain would be a mortal sin. If I somehow inadvertently gave that impression (as I have somehow managed to give people the impression I’m not voting despite my repeated statements to the contrary), then please know I think no such thing. What you are hearing here is how I am doing the moral calculus on my own voting. Since mortal sin requires not just grave matter but freedom and knowledge (which are unknowable to me in the case of other people) I make no judgement here as I make no judgement in other matters. I can’t see a way to find a proportional justification for voting for McCain and I say so. But I freely grant that others might see what I cannot.

Here is my clarification: I haven’t taken exception to Mark’s "choice to go third party," or anyone else’s. On the contrary, I have said over and over that voting third party is within the scope of legitimate prudential judgment.

My view is that both voting pragmatic (in this election for McCain) and voting quixotic (for some third-party candidate) are in principle valid ways of seeking to accomplish good. This is in contrast to voting for Obama, which I do not believe is a valid way of seeking to accomplish good in this election.

What I took exception to was what I took to be Mark’s express opinion that voting for McCain is objectively wrong. But does Mark acknowledge saying this?

Mark slices the pie at a different angle by saying that he doesn’t believe he’s said that "voting for McCain would be a mortal sin." "Mortal sin" is not the same as "objectively wrong," since, as Mark himself notes, "mortal sin requires not just grave matter but freedom and knowledge," which I take it for granted that Mark doesn’t judge.

In fact, I explicitly said so all the way back in my initial post on the subject:

Some caveats here are necessary. In leaning toward such views, Mark naturally means to express an opinion, not a definitive fact. It is an opinion about objective right and wrong, but still an opinion, and Mark would certainly acknowledge that it is an area of permissible dispute, and in principle he could be wrong. Second, I take it for granted that Mark makes no judgment about the culpability of McCain advocates, any more than either he or I judges Kmiec’s culpability for his Obama advocacy. Third, Mark clearly doesn’t put McCain advocacy on a par with Obama advocacy, either regarding plausibility or degree of evil. Still, it does seem that Mark feels or has felt that there are two unequal but objectively wrong choices — voting for either of the two major candidates — and only one morally legitimate course, not voting for either one.

So the question is not "mortal sin," but objective wrongness.

Mark goes on to say, "I can’t see a way to find a proportional justification for voting for McCain and I say so. But I freely grant that others might see what I cannot."

The first sentence seems to entail that, in fact, Mark does believe that voting for McCain is objectively wrong. The second sentence doesn’t deny this belief; rather, Mark simply acknowledges the possibility that he could be wrong in this opinion, as I already noted I assumed from the outset.

Mark may be tentative and humble about his opinion that voting for McCain is objectively wrong, but it still seems to be his opinion; and it is to that opinion — not Mark’s actual vote — that I take exception, and to which this series of posts is addressed.

P.S. This post is not an invitation to regurgitate established talking points without contributing to the discussion. (Those of you to whom I am, and am not, talking know who you are.) Thank you.

Biden flipping on same-sex marriage?

Catholic Exchange reports that Biden said yesterday "that if I lived in California, I would vote against Proposition 8," i.e., he would vote against defining marriage in California to be "between a man and a woman." (Hat tip: Ignatius Insight.)

This appears to conflict with his claims in the VP debate with Sarah Palin that "neither Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage." CE notes that Bill Dohonue has pointed out the conflict between Biden’s apparent opposition to defining marriage to be between a man and a woman and the teaching of Pope Benedict in Sacramentum Caritatis (quoted here at greater length, emphasis mine):

Worship pleasing to God can never be a purely private matter, without consequences for our relationships with others: it demands a public witness to our faith. Evidently, this is true for all the baptized, yet it is especially incumbent upon those who, by virtue of their social or political position, must make decisions regarding fundamental values, such as respect for human life, its defence from conception to natural death, the family built upon marriage between a man and a woman, the freedom to educate one’s children and the promotion of the common good in all its forms (230). These values are not negotiable. Consequently, Catholic politicians and legislators, conscious of their grave responsibility before society, must feel particularly bound, on the basis of a properly formed conscience, to introduce and support laws inspired by values grounded in human nature (231).

Who gets to say what is Catholic? Part 2

Yesterday I wrote that Catholic Democrats (or Catholocrats) like Biden and Pelosi were essentially at war with the bishops — a “war of Who Gets to Say What Catholicism Is,” in which the aim is to relativize Catholic teaching (aka Pope John Paul Catholicism) as mere one Catholicism among many (“the Catholicism I grew up with” being another variety, also known as Pope John XXIII Catholicism).

This war is of course also being waged by such “Catholic” groups as “Catholics United” and “Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good,” both of whom came under fire last week by tireless and heroic Archbishop Chaput of Denver in a statement in which he also called Obama “the most commited ‘abortion-rights’ presidential candidate … since the Roe v. Wade abortion decision in 1973.”

Yesterday’s reports that multi-billionaire investor and political activist George Soros is a major source of funding to dissenting “Catholic” groups including Catholics United and Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good pose a potential new wrinkle of sorts in this war.

Efforts to subvert Catholic identity from within, whether from dissenting theologians like Hans Kung and Charles Curran or from lay groups like Voice of the Faithful, are bad enough.

But groups like “Catholics” United and “Catholics” in Alliance for the Common Good don’t even bother with that. They aren’t concerned with the Church — they’re out to change society, in part by fabricating a new definition of “Catholic” identity as free as possible from actual Church entanglements.

The suggestion that efforts to subvert Catholic identity are being funded from outside the Church by someone like Soros, a multi-billionaire promoter of global abortion, GLBT activism, euthanasia, is, to put it mildly, deeply troubling.

Incidentally, “Catholics” United has released a candidate comparison guide comparing Obama and McCain. Here is how CU describes the candidates’ views on life issues:

Obama: Seeks “common ground” efforts to reduce abortions by increasing education, health care, economic supports for women, children and families. Supports legal abortion and using taxpayer funds for embryonic stell cell research. Supports the death penalty.

McCain: Believes making abortion illegal is the best way to address the abortion issue. Supports legal abortion in cases of rape, incest, and when the mother’s life is in danger. Supports using taxpayer funds for embryonic stem cell research. Supports the death penalty.

Hm. Does anything, I don’t know, stand out to you about that?

No mention of Obama’s support for FOCA or partial-birth abortion, for “clone and kill,” or other aspects of Obama’s abortion extremism. No mention of euthanasia. No mention of McCain’s opposition to creating new embryos for ESCR, which Obama supports.

This is the kind of disinformation being circulated as a “Catholic” take on the candidates… reportedly, on Soros’s nickel.

The war of Who Gets to Say What is Catholic is heating up. The bishops are speaking out, and that’s good. The other side can probably outspend them, though, and they’ve got the sympathetic media on their side.

Biden pits John XXIII against John Paul II

It looks like it’s more or less official: The Catholic pro-choice Democrats are at war the US bishops.

The latest escalation: Joe Biden seeks to claim Pope John XXIII as a sort of mascot or icon of liberal pro-choice Catholocrat ideology over against Pope John Paul II. (Added: Okay, the "escalation" is a media artifact in that the interview is six months old. That’s what I get for attributing a master plan to Biden…)

Note the tacit distinction between "the Catholicism that I was raised in" (i.e., "John XXIII Catholicism") and what Biden implicitly suggests is the different Catholicism advocated by "Pope John Paul" (II, presumably) — and by extension by the U.S. bishops in recent months.

I was raised as a Catholic, I’m a practicing Catholic, and I’m totally at home with the Catholicism that I was raised in and this whole culture of social responsibility, reaction to abuse of power, the whole notion that there is collective civic responsibility. It’s the Catholic consciousness that I’m totally comfortable with. … To sum it up, as a Catholic, I’m a John XXIII guy, I’m not a Pope John Paul guy.

By now, of course, everyone knows that the first salvo in this war was fired by Nancy Pelosi in that fateful Meet the Press during the DNC convention. Her comments, in which she suggested that the Church’s stance on abortion was a novelty of the last half century and that the doctors of the Church had basically been tied in knots over it for centuries, elicited a series of episcopal corrections and clarifications.

Unfazed, Pelosi fired back attempting to back up her claims, prompting further episcopal responses including a fact sheet summing up the history of Catholic thought on the subject. Eventually Pelosi’s own ordinary, Archbishop Niederauer of San Francisco, issued a statement inviting Pelosi to meet with him — an invitation which she accepted within 24 hours. According to AmP’s ticking clock, that was 45 days ago.

The next campaign began with Biden himself backing up Pelosi in the same forum as her original comments, Meet the Press. Biden has since made subsequent comments the harmony of his views with "Catholic social teaching," etc. More and more bishops have added their voices to the chorus of clear teaching, which has been generally though not totally ignored or distorted by the MSM.

Biden’s latest comments, though, represent a new wrinkle in the war of Who Gets to Say What Catholicism Is.

So the bishops think it’s their job to authentically interpret the deposit of faith? Well, they can say what "John Paul II Catholicism" is, maybe. For a "John XXIII guy" like Biden, though, "the Catholicism that [he] was raised in" is something he’s "totally comfortable with"… whatever today’s JP2 bishops may say.

Biden also reiterates the now familiar talking points — "my church has wrestled with this for 2,000 years," yadda yadda — while floating a new claim: that "throughout the church’s history, we’ve argued between whether or not it is wrong in every circumstance and the degree of wrong" … and that "up until Pius IX, there were times
when we said, ‘Look, there are circumstances in which it’s wrong but it is not damnation," and only as of "Pius IX in the 1860s" that everything was written in stone.

How John XXIII, 100 years after Pius IX, fits into Biden’s timeline is not entirely clear to me. Is John XXIII supposed to have missed the memo from Pius IX? Or is Biden the one who missed a memo?

By now, of course, we can be pretty sure that there will be responses from bishops (unless it seems like old news), for the MSM to ignore and distort, while giving the Catholocrats headlines like "Biden balances his faith with social responsibility" (I bet you didn’t know faith needed balancing with social responsibility, did you?).

The Catholicrats are escalating. Where will the war go from here?

(Hat tip: Whispers by way of AmP.)

Elections, Part 4: The least problematic viable candidate

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New comments link for Part 4! (TypePad says they’re working on this!)

SDG here (not Jimmy).

In previous posts, I’ve argued that, on the basis of what Catholic moral teaching understands as fundamental moral principles, the Obama–Biden ticket is far and away the more problematic of the two major-party candidacies, and the McCain–Palin ticket is far and away the less problematic of the two.

I would like to be able to leave the point there. Unfortunately, it has become necessary to make a defense for pro-life Catholics and others who agree with the above assessment — who, whatever objections, misgivings and reservations they may have about McCain–Palin, regard McCain–Palin as less problematic than Obama–Biden, who would prefer a McCain–Palin victory to an Obama–Biden victory — supporting and voting for McCain–Palin.

I don’t mean a defense of the thesis that such voters must vote for McCain–Palin. I mean a defense of the thesis that they may do so.

On first blush, this would seem to be too intuitive and obvious to need defending. Of course you vote for the candidate you hope to see win — what else?

As is often the case with intuitive insights, the reality turns out to be more complicated when you stop and think about it, with some conceptual speed bumps along the way. At the same time, also as is often the case, the intuitive insight is basically on the money. To support and vote for the candidate you hope to see win — or, as I’ve put it in previous posts, for the candidate you regard as the least problematic viable candidate — is always morally licit.

However, as I noted in my first post, some serious and thoughtful Catholics, including my friend Mark Shea and his sometime co-belligerent Zippy Catholic, have suggested or argued that McCain’s support of embryonic stem-cell research makes it objectively wrong for any Catholic to vote for him as well as Obama — even though Obama  supports ESCR as well as abortion, euthanasia and other intrinsically evil policies. (Added: Zippy has taken exception to my original characterization of his views, arguing that "in circumstances like ours there is no proportionate reason to vote for a presidential candidate who supports and promotes a policy of murdering the innocent." Mark seems at times to have proposed a similar view regarding voting for a candidate who supports any intrinsically evil policy.) Thus, on such a view, Catholics who support and vote for either major-party ticket, whatever their sincerity or their culpability may be, are engaged in objectively wrong behavior.

Among other things, it has been argued that voting for a candidate who supports objective evil as the lesser of two evils normalizes that level of evil as "the new normal." It has also been argued that voting for a candidate who supports objective evil involves remote material cooperation in evil, which requires a proportionate reason to be justifiable. But no one vote has any effect at all on the outcome of an election, the argument goes, so there is no proportionate reason.

The only moral alternatives, on this view, would seem to be (a) voting for some third-party candidate, however quixotic or hopeless, or (b) not voting at all. Mark and Zippy have thus become outspoken advocates of voting for a quixotic third-party candidate, strongly resisting any attempt, not only to encourage or pressure other Catholics to vote for McCain, but even to justify a Catholic vote for McCain.

Many Catholics and others who feel strongly about defeating Obama and wish to vote for the one ticket that could conceivably beat him have become unsettled by such claims, and are concerned that they cannot support or vote for McCain–Palin without betraying their faith. A growing number of Catholic voters, many apparently swayed by this scrupulous line of thinking, are joining Mark and Zippy in advocating quixotic candidates such as Chuck Baldwin (who, while he advocates no intrinsically evil policies, seems to be a bit of a kook) and Joe Schriner (a journalist and activist who seems to have some good ideas).

To the extent that quixotic-vote advocates may feel that the most prudent and productive course is to register dissent from all forms of intrinsically immoral policy by voting for a third-party candidate, they are within the bounds of legitimate prudential judgment.

However, to the extent that quixotic-vote advocates have been influenced by concerns over the alleged unjustifiability of voting for any candidate who supports any intrinsically immoral policy, even when the only other viable candidate is far worse, they have been led astray. Such concern is, I submit, unnecessary, unfounded and deeply unfortunate. Catholic moral theology does not
support the scrupulous conclusion that one cannot support or vote for
the candidate one regards as the least problematic viable candidate
unless that candidate is free of all support for intrinsically evil
policies.

To the extent that some quixotic-vote advocates have led others to believe that a vote for any candidate who supports any intrinsically immoral policy is objectively wrong, even when the only other viable candidate is far worse, I’m afraid that, with the best of intentions, they have done those others, and their country, a real disservice. By taking to public fora like blogs to actively influence Catholics in significant numbers to believe that they cannot vote for McCain in good conscience, it is in principle not impossible that quixotic-candidate advocates could help peel away critical support from McCain in battleground states, thereby indirectly contributing to an Obama victory. Morally speaking, this is not the same as actually supporting or voting for Obama, but the outcome for the common good of the country is no better for that.

In this and following posts I hope to contribute some needed clarity to the subject. Can informed and serious Catholics legitimately vote in good conscience for McCain–Palin in an effort to defeat the most pro-abortion major-party candidate in history? In a word: Yes. We. Can!

First, a brief summary of the argument.

  1. The outcome of any election has implications for the common good. In any election that offers more than one possible outcome, different outcomes will have differing implications for the common good, almost always including both positive and negative implications for any outcome. (In American presidential politics, once the primaries are over, the campaign underway and the VP choices announced, the number of possible outcomes is in a basic sense no more than two, and strictly limited to the major-party tickets. Note that we are concerned here with possible outcomes, not theoretical scenarios.) 

  2. Comparing and contrasting the implications for the common good of possible outcomes may be complex and uncertain, but it will often be possible for individual voters to arrive at prudential judgments regarding how positively or negatively they believe any possible outcome is likely to impact the common good, and thus to arrive at a preferential ranking of possible outcomes — or, in other words, a preferential ranking of viable candidates. This doesn’t necessarily mean liking or approving of any of the possible outcomes in any general way, only not regarding possible outcomes as equally desirable or undesirable. (In American presidential politics, this will almost invariably mean regarding one of the two major-party candidates as preferrable to, or less problematic than, the other.)

  3. In any election that offers more than one possible outcome, opinions among the electorate will differ widely, not only regarding the preferability of one candidate or another, but also the reasoning and the criteria for arriving at such judgments, even among those who agree on a particular candidate. (This is emphatically the case with our sharply divided American electorate.) There may in fact be no one policy, priority or factor that unites all who prefer a particular candidate, other than their common preference for their candidate over the major-party rival.

  4. Preferring one possible outcome to any others — regarding one viable candidate as preferable to or less problematic than any other viable candidates — seems to more or less entail hoping (or regarding it as in the interest of the common good) that the preferred possible outcome occurs, that the less problematic viable candidate wins. This in turn seems to more or less entail hoping that potential voters who share our preference for one viable candidate over any other(s) in fact vote for him in greater numbers than potential voters who feel otherwise will vote for his rival (on a state-by-state basis, in enough states to give him an electoral college victory). In other words, we believe that best possible outcome of the election as regards the common good depends on voters like us, voters who share our assessment of the candidates, voting for our preferred viable candidate, by a critical margin.

  5. What we wish to see other voters like ourselves do for the sake of the common good, we bear some responsibility or obligation to do ourselves. If we believe the common good is best served by voters like ourselves voting a certain way, that is how we ought to vote. How much responsibility we have in this regard may vary with circumstances (such as which state we live in), and other courses may sometimes be justifiable, including in some cases voting quixotic, which may also serve the public good in various ways. However, the benefit for the public good of voters voting in numbers for the least problematic viable candidate is never nonexistent (and always proportionate to the cooperation in evil), so the obligation to vote for the candidate we regard as the least problematic viable candidate is never nonexistent. And what we are in any degree obliged to do is always permissible to do.

That’s the short version. My next post will start to explore the argument in depth.

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Roe v. Wade probably hangs in the balance”

So says Barack Obama, in the third and final presidential debate, speaking about the importance of the Supreme Court nominations to be made by the next administration.

"Pro-life pro-Obama"-ites: Are you listening?

Disaffected third-party quixotic voters: Are you listening?

How far back will an Obama administration set us? How long until we get this close again?