The New York Times Magazine recently ran an interview with Saudi royal prince Alwaleed bin Talal that was remarkable in a number of respects (CHT: PowerLine). The interview concerned a $20 million donation that bin Talal has recently given to be used for Islamic studies at Harvard.
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Since you’re said to be worth more than $20 billion, with major holdings in Four Seasons Hotels, Saks Fifth Avenue and Murdoch’s News Corporation, why not give an unrestricted gift instead of such a narrowly focused one?
The gift is unrestricted!
No, it’s not. It has to be spent on Islamic studies. Georgetown is renaming a center after you, and Harvard is naming a program after you.
Well, sure! The studies that concern me and fit my overall global vision – they’re Islamic studies. As you know, ever since 9/11, we have been trying to bridge the gap between West and East.
Which has backfired at least once. You became notorious in New York when Mayor Giuliani declined to accept a $10 million donation from you to victims’ families after you suggested that the U.S. was too friendly with Israel.
By the way, my check was taken to the bank and cashed. The problem was with my statement. I accepted that. Subject closed.
Subject reopened. The money was returned to you. Have you told Harvard, as you told the City of New York, that the U.S. needs to "adopt a more balanced stance toward the Palestinian cause"?
Let me tell you my position. We need to have good relations between the Arab world and Israel. When I sold my Plaza Hotel in New York, it was sold to Elad, which is an Israeli company.
Doing business with the citizens of a country is not the same thing as believing in that country’s right to exist.
We are doing so many things to bridge the gap between Christianity and Islam and Judaism. For example, at my hotel in Paris, George V, you are going to find the Christian Bible, the Jewish Bible and the Islamic Koran in each single room.
That’s a wonderful idea, but a luxury hotel in Paris is a long way from Saudi Arabia, where you could surely spend more money on Judeo-Christian studies.
Look. You have to understand that the population of Saudi Arabia has zero Christians.
That’s the point. Why shouldn’t you should spend your millions educating your own students before you educate kids at Harvard?
Obviously, it could be something we are contemplating.
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You find the situation [in Iraq] very volatile still?
You have not done a very good job there. After 9/11, the U.S. needed to have a big revenge, and Saddam Hussein was a sitting duck. The U.S., with its huge ego, needed to have something big and dramatic.
That’s not what I would call a bridge-building sentiment.
You have to understand. I am a friend of the United States, and these days to be in the Arab world and to be a friend of the United States is a liability. But nevertheless I say it. I am a great friend.
Wow – powerful, forthright interview. And, certainly unusual these days when no one in the general media seems to want to even acknowledge any anti-Western agenda on the part of many Muslims (eg., riots in France, and terrorist acts elsewhere).
Doesn’t everybody accuse their friends of ego mania and picking on poor “sitting duck,” despotic rulers.
“Saudi Arabia has zero Christians,” – gee I wonder why – and all the more reason that some education and understanding of Christians and Jews needs to be fostered there. However, the Saudi Prince makes clear his agenda – the bridge he wants to build flows only in one direction from the Muslim world out.
We are an open society – and most of us would like to keep it that way — but we need to be able to recognize when we are dealing with powers that don’t share that ideal but have learned to use the catch-phrases that we are used to hearing. I applaud this interviewer for asking the right questions and pushing past the polite veneer to get at a little of the truth.
Actually, since I don’t want to register, does the interviewer call him on the “zero” number at all? There are Christians in Saudi Arabia.
Nick: http://www.bugmenot.com 🙂 (it has a nice FireFox extension too)
The “zero Christians” thing made me pause too. Perhaps there are zero Christian citizens of that country. Just another day in the life in a Muslim despotism.
“I am a friend of the United States”. “And I am the Czar of all the Russians”–Mr. Chekov, “Star Trek: ‘Who Mourns for Adonais?'”
I always found it disturbing that the Saudis do little to help their Palestinian brothers and sisters.