Okay, it’s lunchtime and I just got a call asking if I could come on the Scott Thomas show on WYLL in Chicago in an hour or so to talk about baptism of desire. (I’m guessing the Evangelicals in Chicago were watching O’Reilly last night.)
I’m scheduled to be on about 3:10 p.m., Central Time.
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Author: Jimmy Akin
Jimmy was born in Texas, grew up nominally Protestant, but at age 20 experienced a profound conversion to Christ. Planning on becoming a Protestant seminary professor, he started an intensive study of the Bible. But the more he immersed himself in Scripture the more he found to support the Catholic faith, and in 1992 he entered the Catholic Church. His conversion story, "A Triumph and a Tragedy," is published in Surprised by Truth. Besides being an author, Jimmy is the Senior Apologist at Catholic Answers, a contributing editor to Catholic Answers Magazine, and a weekly guest on "Catholic Answers Live."
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Man… You lead a cool life. =)
Jimmy…you’re so *dreamy*!
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Is this radio station an Evangelical outfit?
Great job Jimmy.
Gah! I only managed to catch the last 5 minutes
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Jimmy I hope you will give us a run down for those of us that missed it.
Good show Jimmy! You are truly the Defensor Fidei.
Introducing the trinity at the end was brilliant!
At first, I was thinking “Why is he bringing that up when they’re talking about Baptism?” But it was a really cool move. Getting them to see that rejecting either “one God” or “three persons” leads to heresy was a great way to get them to see that rejecting either “necessity of Baptism” or “God’s mercy” leads to heresy. I wish you’d had another few minutes to finish fleshing that out for the listeners.
Well done!
Isn’t it ironic how it’s only the Baptists who don’t believe in the necessity of baptism?
I didn’t know that till I heard you mention it on the show, great debating point.
At one point the host confused me though because I couldn’t understand where he was coming from at first. He started off by saying he “didn’t understand babtism by desire” so I figured he was on the side of the absolute necessity of baptism. But then he seemed to totally agree that scripture tells us that some can be saved without baptism, and he was using the example of the good thief. You were like ‘right on’, but then he started to say ‘well, we’ll have to agree to disagree’, and I was like ‘what?!! You guys just agreed on everything!’.
But then it became clear that he didn’t think baptism was necessary at all. I guess he was a Baptist then?
I guess this is one of those textbook examples where Protestantism falls into error by over-emphasizing one truth over another, seemingly contradictory truth. Catholicism manages to reconcile the two opposing viewpoints quite nicely.
So this guy was a Baptist then? I thought he was pretty good about giving you a fair chance to explain your position, though at one point he threw out 3 counter-examples and only let you respond to one of them before jumping in. But that was understandable because the segment couldn’t go on forever (even though I would have liked to listen to more of Jimmy slaying all challengers 🙂 and it was clear he was trying to close things up. You could have gone on for hours I’m sure. Now if only we could get that kind of behaviour from the MSM!
They also had a couple of follow up calls discussing your points about 10 minutes after you were done.
I found it a little stereotypically funny how he started going on about how the Bible he reads tells him it’s all about Jesus as Your Personal Lord and Saviour™ and Faith Alone®. I’m like, ‘okay, where do you read that, exactly?’
It’s also kind of funny how there are Evagelicals on both sides of this error.
Now they’re talking about this incident on the radio show:
http://www.jimmyakin.org/2005/01/protecting_chil.html
They really seem to be taking the opposite take that you did Jimmy. Too bad you’re not still on the show though to do battle. He’s asking for callers to call in and argue for the position against accepting the child of the gay parents into the school. You should call back Jimmy!
Maybe it is time to adopt a psuedonym if their is the possibility of me making celebrity appearances. BillyHW, do you know if they mentioned any of us who made comments? If so, I would hope we could get royalties. 🙂
Maybe this will take care of it.
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They weren’t talking about Jimmy’s blog post…they were talking about the school situation because I guess the guy also heard about it on the news or something.