some thoughts on Catholicism and Orthodoxy

SDG here. Following up on my post on the heretical “or” and the Catholic “and”, in which I argued that theological error is always essentially fragmentary and partial while truth is always catholic, integral, here are some specific thoughts on Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

This came up because a Protestant friend who is being drawn toward Orthodoxy recently wrote the following in an exchange with me:

…to me it seems like Catholicism broke itself off from Orthodoxy and set itself up as the central authority and is now telling the Orthodox churches that they can keep on doing what they do so long as they submit to the Pope, while Evangelicals broke off from Catholic and set up the Bible (and a specific way of interpreting the Bible) as the central authority are and are now telling both Catholic and Orthodox churches that they can keep on doing what they do so long as they submit to (the Evangelical understanding of) scripture…

Here’s the first part of my reply:

No, no, no.

You’ve got it backwards. You’re quite right on the one hand that Catholicism says to Orthodoxy something that, for the sake of discussion, we can roughly approximate as “You can keep on doing what you do so long as you submit to the Pope.” That’s because what is wrong with Orthodoxy from a Catholic perspective is fundamentally not that they do or believe anything positively wrong (that is, that they have any fundamental, positive erroneous beliefs or practices), but that there is something fundamental and positive that is missing in their faith and praxis. So, add the missing something to what they do and say now and everything will be all right.

But it’s meaningless words to try to put in the mouth of Protestantism a parallel message to Catholics and Orthodox to the effect that “You can keep on doing what you do so long as you submit to (the Evangelical understanding of) scripture,” since what is wrong with Catholicism and Orthodoxy from a Protestant perspective is precisely that there ARE important elements of what we do and practice that are positively wrong according to the Evangelical understanding of scripture.

In other words, for Catholics and Orthodox to “submit to (the Evangelical understanding of) scripture” would not remotely allow us to “keep on doing what we do,” in anything like the sense that the Orthodox submitting to the Pope would allow them to “keep on doing what they do.” On the contrary, it would require us to cease and desist from a great deal of positive and vital Catholic/Orthodox belief and praxis — our eucharistic sacrifice, our episcopal succession of apostolic authority, our ministerial priesthood, our prayers to saints, our veneration of Mary and unscriptural belief in Mary’s perpetual virginity and heavenly queenship, etc.

There’s no parallel ceasing and desisting that Catholicism demands of Orthodoxy. On the contrary, it is Orthodoxy that demands that Catholicism cease and desist in its claims regarding the authority of the papal office, just as Protestantism demands that Catholicism and Orthodoxy cease and desist their claims regarding the authority of the councils and the traditions.

I notice that you don’t paraphrase the message of Orthodoxy to Catholicism. Does it not take essentially the following form? “You must submit to (the Orthodox understanding of) sacred tradition and the seven councils. We see that you acknowledge in principle the authority of sacred tradition and the councils, but you interpret them wrongly, and wrongly claim additional authority (i.e., the papacy) as your basis for doing so. You must stop pretending to have some additional authority, return only to the tradition and the councils, interpret them as we do, and do and profess only what (we have said all along) is compatible with them.”

And does that not take precisely the same form as the message of Protestantism to both Orthodoxy and Catholicism? “You must submit to (the Evangelical understanding of) sacred scripture. We see that you acknowledge in principle the authority of the sacred scriptures, but you interpret them wrongly, and wrongly claim additional authority (i.e., sacred tradition and the councils) as your basis for doing so. You must stop pretending to have some additional authority, return only to the scriptures, interpret them as we do, and do and profess only what (we have said all along) is compatible with them.”

But now let’s look at things the other way round. What’s the message of Orthodoxy and Catholicism to Protestantism? “Your rule of faith is incomplete. You go only by the scriptures as you understand them, when the scriptures themselves, rightly understood, enjoin to you accept the authority of the bishops, of the councils, of sacred tradition. You err because you interpret your sources not in accordance with right authority. You must accept an authority you now reject per se and in principle, and then you will interpret the scriptures rightly.”

Compare to the message of Catholicism to Orthodoxy: “Your rule of faith is incomplete. You go by the councils and traditions as you understand them, when the councils and traditions themselves, rightly understood, enjoin to you accept the authority of the successor to St. Peter, the Bishop of Rome. You err because you interpret your sources not in accordance with right authority. You must accept an authority you now reject per se and in principle, and then you will interpret the councils and traditions rightly.”

Clearly, there is a continuum here from Catholicism to Orthodoxy to Protestantism. And we could extend it thus:

  1. Catholicism (accepts Old and New Testaments, sacred tradition and councils, apostolic succession of bishops, Petrine succession of popes)
  2. Orthodoxy (accepts Old and New Testaments, sacred tradition and councils, apostolic succession of bishops)
  3. Protestantism (accepts Old and New Testaments)
  4. Pharisaical Judaism (accepts Old Testament)
  5. Saduccees (accepted only the five books of Moses)
  6. Deists (accept no divine revelation)

And of course everyone lower on the list believes that those higher on the list have added false authority to true, and interpret the true wrongly on the basis of the false, while those higher on the list believe that those lower on the list have rejected or failed to accept part of true authority, and therefore fail to understand fully even what they have.

Or look at it this way:

  1. Catholicism (professes one God in Three Persons who has spoken through the law and the prophets; God made man for our redemption; the seven sacraments; the apostolic succession and the priesthood; the Petrine office of the bishop of Rome)
  2. Orthodoxy (professes one God in Three Persons who has spoken through the law and the prophets; God made man for our redemption; the seven sacraments; the apostolic succession and the priesthood)
  3. Protestantism (professes one God in Three Persons who has spoken through the law and the prophets; God made man for our redemption)
  4. Pharisaical Judaism (professes one God who has spoken through the law and the prophets)
  5. Saduccees (professed one God who has spoken through the law)
  6. Deists (profess one God)

As I said, it’s not hard to see which sets of beliefs are more comprehensive, more catholic — which include and expand upon the basic positive elements of the others, and which leave things out.

Rules of Engagement (annotated)

SDG here with excerpts from the the agreement worked out for the Presidential debates (courtesy of NewYorker.com) [my comments in blue]:

  • Paragraph Two: Dress.
    Candidates shall wear business attire. At no time during the debates shall either candidate remove any article of clothing, such as tie, belt, socks, suspenders, etc. Candidates shall not wear helmets, padding, girdles, prosthetic devices, or “elevator”-type shoes. Per above, candidates shall not remove shoes or throw same at each other during debate. Once a debate is concluded, candidates shall be permitted to toss articles of clothing, excepting underwear, into the audience for keepsake purposes. [Hey, if there’s no chance of getting their underwear, what’s the point?]
  • Paragraph Six: Hand gestures.
    “Italian,” “French,” “Latino,” “Bulgarian,” or other ethnic-style gestures intended to demean, impugn, or otherwise derogate opponent by casting aspersions on opponent’s manhood, abilities as lover, or cuckold status are prohibited. Standard “American”-style gestures meant to convey honest bewilderment, doubt, etc., shall be permitted. [Language buffs like Jimmy may say that all human languages have approximately equal expressive power, but when it comes to obscene gestures European gesticulation has it all over standard American.] Candidates shall not point rotating index fingers at their own temples to imply that opponent is mentally deranged. Candidates shall at no time insert fingers in their own throats to signify urge to vomit. Candidates shall under no circumstances insert fingers into opponent’s throat. [I’m pretty sure this is allowed in European political debates.]

  • Paragraph Seventeen A: Bodily fluids – Perspiration. [If there’s a Paragraph Seventeen C, I don’t want to know about it.]
    Debate sponsors shall make every effort to maintain comfortable temperature onstage. Candidates shall make reasonable use of underarm deodorant and other antiperspirant measures, subject to review by Secret Service, before the debates. [“Place your hands on your head… POTUS is clear for entry.”] In the event that perspiration is unavoidable, candidates may deploy one plain white cotton handkerchief measuring eight inches square. Handkerchief may not be used to suggest that opponent wants to surrender in global war on terrorism. [Hm, wonder which campaign felt it necessary to stipulate THAT point?]

  • Paragraph Forty-two: Language.
    Candidates shall address each other in terms of mutual respect (“Mr. President,” “Senator,” etc.). Use of endearing modifiers (“my distinguished opponent,” “the honorable gentleman,” “Pookie,” “Diddums,” etc.) is permitted. [Any candidate who has the guts to call his opponent “Pookie” automatically gets MY vote.] The following terms are specifically forbidden and may not be used until after each debate is formally concluded: “girlie-man,” “draft dodger,” “drunk,” “ignoramus,” “Jesus freak,” “frog,” “bozo,” “wimp,” “toad,” “lickspittle,” “rat bastard,” “polluting bastard,” “lying bastard,” “demon spawn,” “archfiend,” or compound nouns ending in “-hole” or “-ucker.” [How many proscribed terms can YOU identify as having been stipulated by one or the other campaign?]

  • Paragraph Fifty-eight: Spousal references.
    Each candidate may make one reference to his spouse. All references to consist of boilerplate praise, e.g., “I would not be standing here without [spouse’s first name]” or “[Spouse’s name] would make a magnificent First Lady.” Candidates shall not pose hypothetical scenarios involving violent rape or murder of opponent’s spouse so as to taunt opponent with respect to his views on the death penalty. [And we don’t want any OTHER hypothetical scenarios involving the opponent’s spouse, either (cf. Paragraph Six).]

  • Paragraph Ninety-eight: Vietnam.
    Neither candidate shall mention the word “Vietnam.” [And both candidates said “AMEN.”] In the event that either candidate utters said word in the course of a debate, the debate shall be concluded immediately and declared forfeit to the third-party candidate. [Contingency: In the event that a questioner refers to Vietnam, candidates shall put cotton in their ears, join hands, and sing all four verses of “Kum Bah Yah.”]

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Latin Update

I wanted to thank everybody for taking the time to look at the experimental Latin lessons and leave feedback. I haven’t done an exact count, but the split seems roughly even between those who like format #1 and those who like format #2, with perhaps a modest majority for format #1 (though that’s just an impression).

Several have asked whether I’m working on a book or web site teaching Latin by this method, and the answer is “maybe.” I initially did the lessons as an experiment–just to see how this teaching technique would work and whether people would find it useful. The response has been quite positive (though that may be because those who didn’t like the lessons didn’t bother to write in).

As a result of the positive feedback, I’m continuing to develop new lessons using this technique. I’m not sure whether I’ll put them together as a book or a website or first-a-website-and-then-a-book. I’ll need to get a few more lessons done before I make that decision.

As far as formatting, I’ll probably continue to write in format #1, which is the easier format to write in. Then, afterwards, I can rearrange the information into format #2 if that turns out to be the way to go.

I’ll let y’all know how it goes, and will share some more lessons soon to get more feedback.

Much obliged, folks!

P.S. To touch on a few things folks raised in the comments boxes:

1) I *don’t* think that Latin needs to be learned before Greek. In fact, I find Greek grammar easier than Latin (the noun system in Greek is *half* the complexity of the noun system in Latin, e.g.), and there are much better Greek textbooks out there. For example, William Mounce’s Basics of Biblical Greek is the best there is (at least until the one I’ve worked on off-and-on over the years gets published maybe someday).

2) I *loathe* John Collins’ Primer of Ecclesiastical Latin. It is the book I learned from, and its pedagogy is horrendous and seems to be designed to make things as difficult on the student as possible. You really need a good teacher if you’re going to get through this one, but it can be done. Unfortunatley, I don’t know of a better text on ecclesiastical Latin to recommend. I know there are some; I just don’t have them and so haven’t looked at them and am thus unable to recommend any. There is one that’s half-classical/half-ecclesiastical Latin that I like, but the author’s name and its exact title escape me at the moment (language textbooks tend to have such similar titles).

3) One person suggested using ecclesiastical texts in addition to Scripture in the course I’m designing, and I had been semi-planning to do that. After working through Mark a logical switch would be to the text of the Mass. Anyway, we’ll see.

The heretical "or" and the Catholic "and"

SDG here with part one of some musings related to an apologetical discussion I’m having in another forum.

One of the most helpful insights I’ve ever gotten into the nature of divine truth comes from one the 20th century’s most interesting theologians, Henri de Lubac. It has to do with the sense in which all of the great theological questions could be phrased as “or” questions — and how these questions inevitably falsify the issue. For example:

  • Is Jesus human, or is he divine?
  • Is Jesus both God and man, or is he one person?
  • Is the Father God, or is Jesus God, or is the Holy Spirit God?
  • Are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit one, or are they three?
  • Are human beings noble, created in God’s image, or evil, steeped in sin and corruption?
  • Is salvation by grace alone, or do we cooperate in our own salvation?
  • Does God predestine, or do men choose freely?
  • Is the author of scripture God or human beings?
  • Is God all-powerful, or is he all-good, or is evil unreal?

And so on. And of course everyone knows that historically Christian orthodoxy has always said “Yes” to BOTH sides of all these questions, while all of the great heresies involve pitting the two sides against one another and affirming one while rejecting the other.

For this reason, heresies often come in ordered pairs of opposites, each of which affirms one truth while denying the complementary truth, while catholic orthodoxy affirms what is affirmed by each heresy, but also affirms what the heresy denies.

For example, if you affirm Jesus’ humanity but deny his divinity, you wind up with a form of Arianism; if you affirm his divinity but deny his humanity, you wind up with Docetism. OTOH, if you affirm that he is both God and man, but deny that he is one person, you wind up with Nestorianism; if you affirm that he is one person but deny his dual natures, you wind up with Monophysitism (though whether historically the groups associated with Nestorianism or Monophysitism actually materially denied the oneness of Christ’s person or his dual divine and human natures is another question).

Again, if you affirm only the human aspect of responsibility and working out our salvation, you end up with some form of Pelagianism; if you affirm only the divine aspect of predestination and sovereignty, you end up with some form of (hyper?) Calvinism. Likewise, if you affirm only God as the author of scripture, you wind up with Fundamentalist hyper-literalism; if you affirm only human beings as its authors, you wind up with modernist relativism.

This is why the very word “heresy” is derived via Latin from a Greek word meaning to take or to choose, suggestive of the English idiom “picking and choosing,” while truth is always seen as “catholic” or universal, pertaining to the whole. Catholic orthodoxy is always defined in terms of affirming BOTH the truth that each heresy affirms AND ALSO the truth that the heresy denies (but is affirmed by some other heresy that denies the first truth).

The essence of catholic orthodoxy is in this “both / and,” this repudiation of the heretical “either / or” alternative. Catholic orthodoxy always involves fidelity to the whole, the ability to maintain both this truth over here and that truth over there, and not to allow any element of the truth to be pitted against any other element. Catholic orthodoxy insists that the truth is always larger, more comprehensive, more complete, more catholic than any heretical alternative; heresy always essentially involves denial of one aspect of truth — not adding some novelty to the sum total of Christian truth.

There is a tendency, therefore, for Christian truth to have a paradoxical appearance to finite, mortal creatures. And this is not the case because God has a fondness for sending us doctrine in neat ordered pairs of alternatives, but because divine truth is too large for us to apprehend in its totality, or understand how it all fits together, and so the most we can do is to affirm both this aspect of it and that aspect, and to distinguish the sense in which (say) God is One (i.e., in substance) from the sense in which he is Three (i.e., in number of persons), so that we see that there is no formal logical contradiction — though no one pretends thereby to have made the mystery comprehensible.

More later….

The heretical “or” and the Catholic “and”

SDG here with part one of some musings related to an apologetical discussion I’m having in another forum.

One of the most helpful insights I’ve ever gotten into the nature of divine truth comes from one the 20th century’s most interesting theologians, Henri de Lubac. It has to do with the sense in which all of the great theological questions could be phrased as “or” questions — and how these questions inevitably falsify the issue. For example:

  • Is Jesus human, or is he divine?
  • Is Jesus both God and man, or is he one person?
  • Is the Father God, or is Jesus God, or is the Holy Spirit God?
  • Are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit one, or are they three?
  • Are human beings noble, created in God’s image, or evil, steeped in sin and corruption?
  • Is salvation by grace alone, or do we cooperate in our own salvation?
  • Does God predestine, or do men choose freely?
  • Is the author of scripture God or human beings?
  • Is God all-powerful, or is he all-good, or is evil unreal?

And so on. And of course everyone knows that historically Christian orthodoxy has always said “Yes” to BOTH sides of all these questions, while all of the great heresies involve pitting the two sides against one another and affirming one while rejecting the other.

For this reason, heresies often come in ordered pairs of opposites, each of which affirms one truth while denying the complementary truth, while catholic orthodoxy affirms what is affirmed by each heresy, but also affirms what the heresy denies.

For example, if you affirm Jesus’ humanity but deny his divinity, you wind up with a form of Arianism; if you affirm his divinity but deny his humanity, you wind up with Docetism. OTOH, if you affirm that he is both God and man, but deny that he is one person, you wind up with Nestorianism; if you affirm that he is one person but deny his dual natures, you wind up with Monophysitism (though whether historically the groups associated with Nestorianism or Monophysitism actually materially denied the oneness of Christ’s person or his dual divine and human natures is another question).

Again, if you affirm only the human aspect of responsibility and working out our salvation, you end up with some form of Pelagianism; if you affirm only the divine aspect of predestination and sovereignty, you end up with some form of (hyper?) Calvinism. Likewise, if you affirm only God as the author of scripture, you wind up with Fundamentalist hyper-literalism; if you affirm only human beings as its authors, you wind up with modernist relativism.

This is why the very word “heresy” is derived via Latin from a Greek word meaning to take or to choose, suggestive of the English idiom “picking and choosing,” while truth is always seen as “catholic” or universal, pertaining to the whole. Catholic orthodoxy is always defined in terms of affirming BOTH the truth that each heresy affirms AND ALSO the truth that the heresy denies (but is affirmed by some other heresy that denies the first truth).

The essence of catholic orthodoxy is in this “both / and,” this repudiation of the heretical “either / or” alternative. Catholic orthodoxy always involves fidelity to the whole, the ability to maintain both this truth over here and that truth over there, and not to allow any element of the truth to be pitted against any other element. Catholic orthodoxy insists that the truth is always larger, more comprehensive, more complete, more catholic than any heretical alternative; heresy always essentially involves denial of one aspect of truth — not adding some novelty to the sum total of Christian truth.

There is a tendency, therefore, for Christian truth to have a paradoxical appearance to finite, mortal creatures. And this is not the case because God has a fondness for sending us doctrine in neat ordered pairs of alternatives, but because divine truth is too large for us to apprehend in its totality, or understand how it all fits together, and so the most we can do is to affirm both this aspect of it and that aspect, and to distinguish the sense in which (say) God is One (i.e., in substance) from the sense in which he is Three (i.e., in number of persons), so that we see that there is no formal logical contradiction — though no one pretends thereby to have made the mystery comprehensible.

More later….

Bush beats Kerry by single percentage point!

…for email newsletter usability, that is.

SDG here. In my day job, which is Web development, usability occupies a significant part of my focus and energy. It began with a seminar at a computer conference a number of years ago, after which I gave a couple of presentations at the company I work for, and before I knew it I had become the usability guy in my Web development department.

So one of the things I do is periodically comb through the biweekly “AlertBox” column of usability guru Jakob Nielsen of the Nielsen Norman Group. Nielsen is full of helpful tips and perspectives, and is famous for saying such things as “Users spend most of their time on OTHER sites” and “Zero learning curve or death.”

Anyway, I was interested and amused to see in his last column an analysis of the usability of the official email newsletters of the Bush and Kerry campaigns. Nielsen gives low scores to both services, with Bush scoring particularly low in “subscription maintenance and unsubscribing” and Kerry weaker in “subscription interface” and “newsletter content and presentation.” In the end, though, Bush comes out ahead by a single point, with a 58% score over Kerry’s 57%.

On newsletter content, Nielsen finds that Bush’s content is mostly “positive campaigning” and “announcements and instructions,” while Kerry’s is mostly “negative campaigning” and appeals for readers to “volunteer and donate.”

On the battle for inbox attention and differentiation from spam, Nielsen writes:

Subject lines were universally lame, with Kerry having the most user-repellant subjects, like “Tonight,” “Don’t stop now,” and “Deadline almost here.” Why would anybody think that those messages were anything but spam? Bush had somewhat better subject lines, like “Kerry’s Flip Flop Olympics,” and “Participate in W ROCKS in Alameda County,” though he also had content-free subjects like “Brace Yourselves.”

Interestingly, Kerry has something like twice as many subscribers as Bush.

Finally, Nielsen closes with what I assume is an at least partly tongue-in-cheek warning to candidates who ignore his recommendations at their own peril:

In 1996, I wrote a review for The New York Times on the campaign websites for Bill Clinton and Bob Dole. I concluded that the two sites scored about even in usability, and I provided several recommendations for improving each site. Two weeks after the article ran, Clinton’s site had been updated to incorporate all of my recommendations. In contrast, Dole’s site stayed the same throughout the campaign. We all know who won the 1996 election, so maybe this example will motivate the campaigns to pay closer attention to usability this time around.