Canonization Of The Damned

A non-Catholic reader writes:

“…the Church’s official position is still that there are definitely people in hell, it just doesn’t claim to know which individuals are.”

Considering the church’s official position, wouldn’t this conflict with those the church declared “saints”? I mean, if they don’t know who is in hell, which is a fair assumption, how can they claim to know who is in heaven? We can assume that we know some are and, like you, I can safely believe that Peter, Paul, and the rest of the gang are there, but past that—I don’t know who’s there.

If the “infallible” church can say with certainty that Mother Teresa, Bernadette Soubirous, John Bosco, Vincent de Paul, etc. are in heaven, why can’t it say with just as much certainty the names of those whom they believe are in hell (Hitler, Stalin, Ivan the Terrible, Pol Pot, et al)?

Later, when it was pointed out that the Church utilizes miracles performed through the intercession of the saints as evidence that they are in heaven, the reader wrote:

First of all, we would have to assume that the church is correct in saying these “saints” are truly in heaven, regardless of miracles and personal testimonies (which again we would have to trust the church on). Secondly, miracles and personal testimonies aren’t truly indicators of salvation. Other pagan religions have their “holy men” who have mimicked the same. Mr. Akin stated that Judas and Nero could be said to be in hell, which, IMO, is a fair estimation. Yet, when the church claims to know with certainty who “made it”, but cannot say for sure who didn’t; well, it’s pretty presumptuous.

Since you’re non-Catholic, it’s understandable that you would not share the epistemology needed to have confidence in the Church’s canonization of saints. However, since the discussion was an intramural one among Catholics, you kind of need to be willing to “go with” that epistemology for purposes of this discussion. We could have a discussion of why the Church has the epistemology it does (it isn’t just making assumptions), but that is a different discussion than this one. (Discussions on blogs need to be fairly narrow in scope because of limitations of format. If we were writing chapter- or book-length entries in the discussion, we could try dealing with both at once, but blog entries are too short, so we need to stick to one issue at a time.)

Regarding the discussion at hand, I think it is possible for the Church to use its gift of infallibility to “canonize the damned,” or “anti-saints” as we might call them:

1) I think this is clearly possible in the case of select individuals like Judas and Nero, for whom we have special revelation regarding their fates. Since the Church has the power to infallibly define the meaning of the revelation given to the Church, it would be possible for the Church to use that infallibility regarding the meaning of the revelation connected with the fate of Judas and a few other individuals. Thus the Church could define that they are in hell; it simply hasn’t done so to this point.

2) I also suspect that the Church might be able to use its infallibility to define the damnation of other individuals. If it can define the dogmatic fact that a particular person is in heaven, this would seem to be prima facie evidence that the Church would also be able to use its infallibility to define that a particular person isn’t in heaven.

3) We could speculate on the evidential basis that could be offered for particular anti-saint definitions. There is an assymetry regarding the evidence we have for the fates of saints and anti-saints (i.e., we have intercessory miracles as evidence for the salvation of saints, but we don’t have the same for the damnation of anti-saints), but this is not an ultimately insuperable problem. Unfortunately, spelling out a detailed rationale would make this entry unduly long and so will have to wait for another time.

4) In any event, the matter is speculative since, as there has been no motivating factor for the Church to define the damnation of anti-saints, it has never done so.

Hope this helps!

"Compendium" Nearing Completion

This is a story you should pay attention to, because even though many haven’t noticed it yet, it’s going to make a BIG splash when it finally comes out.

The Church is preparing a new major catechetical document, tentatively called the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church (that would be the CCCC, I guess). It’s meant to be a shorter version of the CCC, correcting one of the biggest problems that the CCC has: It’s too dang long!

A decision was made early in the editorial stage of the 3-C to have it present the faith in a non-technical, organic, at times almost poetic way that knits together Scripture, writings of the Church Fathers and major saints, and the documents of the Magisterium. This had some advantages, including forcing the reader to absorb the faith as an organic whole, without being able to as easily dismiss things that he doesn’t like (e.g., a liberal wanting to dismiss the relevance of Scripture or the Church Fathers to the faith).

The approach also has some disadvantages. One is that it made the 3-C so long that it was hard to get the thing as carefully written and edited as one might desire. Some things were not phrased in the best the way (in fact, some things still aren’t), and so they had to go back and to a bug release than toned up things like the etiology of homosexuality, for example.

The length also resulted in casting the net so broadly that it includes not only major, fixed points of Catholic doctrine that are infallibly defined but much material that, though official, is not nearly on the same level. By presenting the material as it does, the Catechism presents the faith in a “flattened” manner that puts each teaching on an equal level of authority, which isn’t the case. (E.g., some of the material in the social doctrine section is not on the same level as, say, the Trinity and transubstantiation are).

The biggest problem caused by the 3-C’s length is that it is simply too long for most folks to read. (The organic, semi-poetic writing style also makes it a rather difficult read if you aren’t used to wrapping your brain around Magisterial documents.)

The 3-C is still and ENORMOUS gift to the Church, and I am delighted that it was released in my lifetime. It has and will continue to do a tremendous amount of good for Christ’s Church.

Almost as soon as the 3-C was released, people began to wonder if it would be good for the Church to release a shorter version of the same thing. I wondered why some publisher didn’t, for example, skim out the “In Brief” sections of the Catechism and publish them as a book (assuming the proper rights could be obtained).

Well, apparently JPII was convined by the arguments for having a shorter version of the Catechism, and thus the 4-C is now in production. The mandate for its composition is as follows:

The Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church should contain, in a concise form, the essential and fundamental contents of the faith of the Church, respecting its completeness and doctrinal integrity, in such as a way as to develop a sort of ‘vademecum’ [handbook, compendium] that allows people, believers and non-believers, to embrace, in a single, overall glance the entire panorama of the Catholic faith. It will have as its source, model and constant reference point the current Catechism of the Catholic Church which, in keeping intact its authoritativeness and importance, will be able to find, in such a synthesis, a stimulus to be better studied and, more in general, a further instrument of education to the faith [Letter from JPII to Card. Ratzinger].

The story linked above indicates that the consultation process for the 4-C is now finished. It ended April 30th, and so hopefully we’ll be seeing the 4-C get released sometime soon (by which I mean, a year from now).

The new work will be about a seventh of the length of the current work (meaning it’s 70-100 pages long, depending on formatting), will have an appendix with major creeds and prayers, and–best of all–will be in a Q & A format suitable for traditional catechetical use and making it much easier to read.

Yee-haw!

“Compendium” Nearing Completion

This is a story you should pay attention to, because even though many haven’t noticed it yet, it’s going to make a BIG splash when it finally comes out.

The Church is preparing a new major catechetical document, tentatively called the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church (that would be the CCCC, I guess). It’s meant to be a shorter version of the CCC, correcting one of the biggest problems that the CCC has: It’s too dang long!

A decision was made early in the editorial stage of the 3-C to have it present the faith in a non-technical, organic, at times almost poetic way that knits together Scripture, writings of the Church Fathers and major saints, and the documents of the Magisterium. This had some advantages, including forcing the reader to absorb the faith as an organic whole, without being able to as easily dismiss things that he doesn’t like (e.g., a liberal wanting to dismiss the relevance of Scripture or the Church Fathers to the faith).

The approach also has some disadvantages. One is that it made the 3-C so long that it was hard to get the thing as carefully written and edited as one might desire. Some things were not phrased in the best the way (in fact, some things still aren’t), and so they had to go back and to a bug release than toned up things like the etiology of homosexuality, for example.

The length also resulted in casting the net so broadly that it includes not only major, fixed points of Catholic doctrine that are infallibly defined but much material that, though official, is not nearly on the same level. By presenting the material as it does, the Catechism presents the faith in a “flattened” manner that puts each teaching on an equal level of authority, which isn’t the case. (E.g., some of the material in the social doctrine section is not on the same level as, say, the Trinity and transubstantiation are).

The biggest problem caused by the 3-C’s length is that it is simply too long for most folks to read. (The organic, semi-poetic writing style also makes it a rather difficult read if you aren’t used to wrapping your brain around Magisterial documents.)

The 3-C is still and ENORMOUS gift to the Church, and I am delighted that it was released in my lifetime. It has and will continue to do a tremendous amount of good for Christ’s Church.

Almost as soon as the 3-C was released, people began to wonder if it would be good for the Church to release a shorter version of the same thing. I wondered why some publisher didn’t, for example, skim out the “In Brief” sections of the Catechism and publish them as a book (assuming the proper rights could be obtained).

Well, apparently JPII was convined by the arguments for having a shorter version of the Catechism, and thus the 4-C is now in production. The mandate for its composition is as follows:

The Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church should contain, in a concise form, the essential and fundamental contents of the faith of the Church, respecting its completeness and doctrinal integrity, in such as a way as to develop a sort of ‘vademecum’ [handbook, compendium] that allows people, believers and non-believers, to embrace, in a single, overall glance the entire panorama of the Catholic faith. It will have as its source, model and constant reference point the current Catechism of the Catholic Church which, in keeping intact its authoritativeness and importance, will be able to find, in such a synthesis, a stimulus to be better studied and, more in general, a further instrument of education to the faith [Letter from JPII to Card. Ratzinger].

The story linked above indicates that the consultation process for the 4-C is now finished. It ended April 30th, and so hopefully we’ll be seeing the 4-C get released sometime soon (by which I mean, a year from now).

The new work will be about a seventh of the length of the current work (meaning it’s 70-100 pages long, depending on formatting), will have an appendix with major creeds and prayers, and–best of all–will be in a Q & A format suitable for traditional catechetical use and making it much easier to read.

Yee-haw!

Gus and Ambrose Hang Out

This story is kind of touching. The relics of two doctors of the Church–St. Ambrose and his most famous convert, St. Augustine–have been placed next to each other in Milan till the end of the week.

I can’t help thinking that the two of them must be moved by this up in heaven. I know I would be moved (figuratively, not just literally) if someone placed my relics beside those of one of my best friends, *sixteen centuries* after my death. What a testament to friendship!

On the other hand, I’m much less happy to see the Italians trying to make hay regarding the immigration issue in connection with all this. (Italians, like most Europeans, tend to be crazy regarding politics.) The comment by historian Giorgio Rumi that “Augustine’s descendants at this moment in time are probably queueing outside a [Milan] police station for a residence permit” is especially tasteless. Yes, it’s true that Augustine had a son before he was a priest, and so he may well have descendants today–or maybe not. However that may be, it’s supremely tasteless to raise the possibility in the way Rumi did.

The Population of Hell

A reader writes:

Do you think we can know for sure that there are people in hell (not that we know which particular people are there)?

The current Roman Catholic teaching seems to be that we don’t know if there are people in Hell (a la Hans Urs von Balthasar).

I wouldn’t say that Catholic teaching is that we don’t know. The situation has been muddied a bit recently, but as far as I can tell the Church’s official position is still that there are definitely people in hell, it just doesn’t claim to know which individuals are. The most recent, highly authoritative statement is still that of the Catechism, and it gives no hint of the “maybe everybody gets saved” position.

To clarify matters, consider the following positions:

1. Nobody is in hell.

2. *Maybe* nobody is in hell.

3. Some people are in hell.

4. Some people are in hell and we know who some of them are.

5. Boatloads of people are in hell.

6. Everybody is in hell except for the tiny remnant that *I* belong to.

7. Everybody without exception is in hell; Jesus died for nothing.

From what I can tell, the Church is willing to sign off on position #3, though not precluding the other positions listed, except for #s 1 and 7, which are right out. Positions #s 2-6 seem to be permitted (or at least tolerated), as evidenced by the fact that the pope named von Balthasar (a holder of position #2) as a cardinal and the CDF has allowed the Feeneyites (holders of position #6) to remain as Catholics without being subject to theological discipline and even (in the case of one group) being allowed to raise money as a Catholic organization.

As far as what *I* think, I’m an exponent of position #4. I think that we know at least two people who are in hell: Judas and one of the early Roman emperors, most likely Nero. This is because Jesus says that it would have been better for Judas if he had not been born (and if he ended up in heaven then that clearly wouldn’t be the case) and because Revelation speaks of the Beast (most plausibly identified as the Emperor Nero) being thrown into the lake of fire. The fact that these two gents are in hell means that *some* people are in hell, and thus position #2 is wrong.

In fact, I think that the von Balthasar position is hopelessly wrong for a number of reasons, and if I were pope it would be swiftly ejected from the permitted opinion list. If you like, I’d be hapy to explain why, but at the moment it’s getting late. 🙂

Interracial Marriages

A correspondent writes:

when i see inter-racial couples my spirit tells me that this is not natural. i have seen the child of an inter-racial marriage. the child had a black skin, had a white scalp with bright red hair. the child looked like a freak

I can’t agree with you, nor does the Church. From a moral perspective, differences in skin color are no more significant than differences in hair color or eye color. Neither are other racial characteristics. The human race is already one big family; it’s simply that certain characteristics have come to predominate in different parts of that family.

stormFrom the perspective of intrinsic morality, there is no more reason for people with different skin colors not to marry than for people with different hair colors or different eye colors. That may lead to uncommon combinations, but hey, I always thought Storm from the X-Men looked cool.

There can be extrinsic reasons why individuals of different racial backgrounds ought not marry. E.g., two hundred years ago in America a mixed-race couple would face an extremely hard life, including in some places imprisonment or worse. For example, in early Utah Brigham Young decreed that any white man who had conjugal relations with a black woman was to be put to death:

Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so [Journal of Discourses 10:109].

Fortunately, in the developed world, the attitudes creating such factors have virtually disappeared.

Let me share with you the Bible’s perspective on interracial marriages. First, they are not at all unusual in Scripture. Palestine is located at a major junction between Europe, the Middle East, and Africa, and so mixed race marriages were far from unknown. They occasionally crop up in the Bible. For example, two of the tribes of Israel (Ephraim and Manasseh) resulted from the union of the patriarch Joseph (a Semite) with the daughter of Pharoah’s high priest (an Egyptian, and thus a Hamite).

Scripture also records God’s intense displeasure at the criticism of one particular interracial marriage. In Numbers 12 we read that Moses’ brother and sister, Aaron and Miriam, criticized Moses for marrying a black woman (she is described as a Cushite, meaning she was probably of Ethiopian ancestry):

Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married, for he had married a Cushite woman.

And the LORD came down in a pillar of cloud, and stood at the door of the tent, and called Aaron and Miriam; and they both came forward. And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them, and he departed; and when the cloud removed from over the tent, behold, Miriam was leprous, as white as snow. And Aaron turned towards Miriam, and behold, she was leprous.

And Aaron said to Moses, “Oh, my lord, do not punish us because we have done foolishly and have sinned. And Moses cried to the LORD, “Heal her, O God, I beseech thee.”

But the LORD said to Moses, “If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be shamed seven days? Let her be shut up outside the camp seven days, and after that she may be brought in again.” So Miriam was shut up outside the camp seven days; and the people did not set out on the march till Miriam was brought in again [Num. 12:1, 5, 9-11, 13-15].

In this passage the text notes that Miriam, who had been criticizing Moses for marrying a black woman, was turned “as white as snow” by her leprosy. It is as if God is saying, “You want white? I got yer white! I got yer white right here!”

More Good News: al-Qaeda Leadership 70% Degraded

Shortly after 9/11, I was talking to a Maronite priest friend who was helping me with Arabic pronunciation, and we got to talking about bin Laden. My priest friend was very worried about the danger posed by bin Laden–and, indeed, he was and is a very dangerous man who needs to be dealt with as swiftly as possible. But I pointed out that with the new U.S. War Against Terror, it would make it much, much harder for bin Laden to operate. He could no longer come out into the open without making himself a target, and it’s hard to raise support and coordinate major attacks if you’re deep in hiding. My priest friend saw the point and was somewhat relieved by this line of thinking.

Now we have reports that bin Laden has been forced so deep into hiding that he now is only a figurehead for al-Qaeda.

The same story goes on to report:

As many as 70 percent of al-Qaeda’s leadership have been captured or killed as a result of the US-led war on terror launched in the aftermath of September 11 in Afghanistan (news – web sites) and other parts of the world, according to US intelligence officials.

More than 3,400 of the group’s lower-ranking operatives and supporters have also been detained or otherwise neutralized, these officials insist.

But a report on worldwide terrorism patterns released by the State Department Thursday acknowledged that al-Qaeda probably still has several thousand members and associates it can rely on.